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Diy Bubble Cloner.

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Here is how I made a successful bubble cloner with minimal time, money and effort. This could be made to any size to fit your needs. I chose to make a 35 site model out of a "rubbermaid-like" container measuring appx,18" X 24" X 6" deep. (this size I could only find clear totes and chose to paint the outside with flat black rubberized paint, although I'm not convinced this is necessary)

 

Once you know how many clones your going to want and how much space you want to give each one you should be able to pick out the right size container. Around 6" deep is good. I gave each site more room than any commercial cloner and found it to work better for me.

 

Pick up as many small plastic net pots and foam inserts as you want cloning sites. Then cut the basket out of the bottom of the net pot. Use a hole saw just smaller than the diameter of the lip of the net pot to make holes in your lid for the cloning sites. These cut net pots will sit in these holes with the foam plant holder inside them. (I used 2" net pots, foam holders, and a 1-3/4" hole saw)

 

We need air stones and a pump. For this design I would use 4 or 5 of the air stones pictured or similar. Glue them to the bottom of the container, or use the little suction cups that hold to your airlines if you still experimenting. I found the 4-6" air stones work best. The goal is to space them out to where the top of the water is evenly misting up fine water drops everywhere.

 

Try to keep stems misted and above the water level, start about 1/2 or so. You don't want them completely wet or soaked, and never under water. Misted is the key here.

 

Here is a link to every part if you wish to copy this.

The hole saw http://www.menards.c...745-c-10085.htm

 

The container http://www.walmart.c...t-of-6/15539793

 

The air pump http://www.4hydropon...temNo=cgairpump

 

The net pots http://www.4hydropon...ItemNo=netcupAA

 

The foam inserts to hold plant. http://www.4hydropon...ItemNo=neoprene

 

The air stones http://www.4hydropon...o=blueAirstones

 

*I had a "EZ-Cloner" that had the pump in the water reservoir, in the summer it was impossible to cool this thing I found. I was much happier with this bubble cloner. However you make your own don't make the mistake of designing the pump in the reservoir, IMO. The pressurized spraying of the ez cloner is a bit better than a bubbler like this I think, but if I had to have clones for hydro (I use Rapid rooters currently) I would use PVC, cheap sprayers, and external pump instead of the air pump and air stones, but were splitting hairs at this point, this works. Heres some pics to help out. I used this for a long time, any questions public or private are encouraged.

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Disappointment is caused by unrealistic expectations. / The more I learn about people the more I like my dog. / Whether you think that you can, or that you can't, you are usually right. / Its like everything it depends on everything else. 

 

 

 

 

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:smoking-smiley-face:  Thanks guys, Im honored and glad it helped out someone..... 


Disappointment is caused by unrealistic expectations. / The more I learn about people the more I like my dog. / Whether you think that you can, or that you can't, you are usually right. / Its like everything it depends on everything else. 

 

 

 

 

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No thank you ! :-) Just getting ready to build my firts cloner was wondering which way to go build a bubbler one like this one posted here or one that sprays water in a mist using a small water pump :-) Any one have first hand knowledge with using both types ?

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yup.  I like the bubble method better than a sprayer.  I like the bubble method better even than "OxyClone" systems (low wattage motor, intake air line, creates "undercurrent" water movement).

 

On the Sprayer bucket, my "EZ Cloner" - clone, I needed a cycle timer, 1 minute on 4minutes off, to run the sprayer in the 5 gallon bucket.  The volume of water would overheat within a few minutes and the temps would inhibit rooting, from a lack of Dissolved Oxygen. Even when I tried the pump/sprayer combo in a 15 gallon container, the cycle timer was critical to keeping the heat down.

 

I tried for 10 days, and only produced nubs on the kids in the bucket.  THE DAY my cycle timer showed, I had roots popping out 2-3 inches 12 hours later, and my water temps had dropped about 15 degrees.

 

 

My bubble buckets give me legs in a week - 10 days with tap water and 2 air stones.  No timers, no water pumps, just clean environment and some bubbles.

 

 

Just my 2 cents, but less is so much more.

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Very nice man! IMO, thats about as good as cloner gets. :D  


Disappointment is caused by unrealistic expectations. / The more I learn about people the more I like my dog. / Whether you think that you can, or that you can't, you are usually right. / Its like everything it depends on everything else. 

 

 

 

 

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KarrMcDebt this worked out pretty nice wallyworld has airpump for around 10$ stones are around 4$  for the one that are 16" i believe cost me around 20$ to build a 12 site cloner  , i checked around thriftshops for an airpump but never got lucky at any 

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I don't shop at Walmart, no matter how cheap. That place is the devil.  

:1sm390teach:   Agreed. 


Disappointment is caused by unrealistic expectations. / The more I learn about people the more I like my dog. / Whether you think that you can, or that you can't, you are usually right. / Its like everything it depends on everything else. 

 

 

 

 

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I don't shop at Walmart, no matter how cheap. That place is the devil.

 

:1sm390teach:   Agreed.

Lol I agree on that , I recieved a 50$gift card for xmas so away i went ,allways fun for people watching at least :-)

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try these:

http://www.lowes.com/pd_332449-61896-332449_0__?productId=3276019&Ntt=centrex&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Dcentrex&facetInfo=

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I use the 31 gallon size of these very tubs for my hydro going now.  they are 16x24, 8 inches tall.

Or the same company, different style:

http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=44066-61896-44066&langId=-1&storeId=10151&productId=3551290&catalogId=10051&cmRelshp=req&rel=nofollow&cId=PDIO1

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I think these are what kak uses for his cloner...

 

And Lowes, Home Depot, Ace Hardware, Menards.... any of them should have stuff pretty comparable.  Hell, Office Depot is carrying a line from britain, I swear is the backbone for one of the commercial undercurrent systems.  They are black, smooth plastic, and I see a hash tumbler out of one in my near future, too.  I think they are called Really Useful boxes, 100% recycled.

http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/452063/Really-Useful-Boxes-100percent-Recycled-Plastic/

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