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Greetings CannaFam,

 
I am currently resurrecting my medical grow, and I figured it would be a good time to start a grow journal. I think I have most of the basic principles down, but I am by no means an expert. This is the first garden that I am putting together in our new home. 
 
The veg closet is pretty much setup and functional for my starters. However I still need to get my aero cloner bucket up and running.
 
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The flower room is still a work in progress. I am still kind of debating on whether or not I should devote all my time and energy to getting my other LED light mounted, since I am planning on installing some HPS lights, an A/C, and some fans & duct when we get our tax returns 
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So, here goes:
 
Veg. 
 
Lights: (2) 19w LED fixtures 
Grow Medium: Coco Coir/Perlite 
Genetics: GrandDaddy Purps 
 
 
I put up a layer of cardboard on the windows before blocking them out with the panda film, to help with added insulation and light blockage. I also put up some panda film around the edges of the door, since I saw some light leaking out in to the (soon-to-be) flower room. 
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There was a single hook already mounted in the ceiling when we moved in, but i wanted to mount two lights, so I Engineered this little setup with an old fast-food tray and a single lightweight chain. 
 
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I have the lights mounted about 3 1/2 ft. From the grow cups (can’t really call it a canopy yet, lol).
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The first bunch of sprouts died on me because it was too cold in there, so I put the radiating space heater in there and added a small fan to circulate air/heat 

 

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Today’s update: 

 
I keep making the same rookie mistake. I pop a seed in some water, seed splits and a little tail comes out, i plant this little ‘tadpole’ in some grow medium and it slowly starts to grow. When the sprout reaches around 2” I try to “help” it by removing the seed/shell from the sprout. The sprout dies. 
 
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Rinse. Repeat. 
 
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As you can see, I just made that mistake with my GDP sprout and my Douglas County Heirloom. I can’t believe I’m still making rookie mistakes. 
 
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Two new sprouts popped up out of the same cup that the most promising GDP sprout had been in. Those must be the Jilly Bean seeds that I planted about 10 days ago, but had all but given up on. The only crappy part is that they both popped up in the same little starter cup- another rookie mistake... this one wasn’t intentional, but it still leaves me in the same position 
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New Genetics: Jilly Bean 

 

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Hey Manny,  Glad to see you back!!  After 9 yrs. I still do stupid stuff, like forgetting to tag them, or writing down when they've been flipped to 12/12.

Of course, they are finished when they're finished, but it seems I no longer have any concept of time....good to have a reference.

Jilly Bean was a good strain...been a long time since I had her in my garden.

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Thanks for sharing with us. 

I make mistakes all the time, That is why we/I need a website like this. :D I learn stuff every day, (Thanks, @Purple Power

I'm looking forward to seeing the photos. 

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just trying to help,

 

2" tall and still have helmet, hum, imo, you are smart to wonder why 

 

We met, remember :wink: and loved your visit

 

at 2" tall, all wonderful world, would hope for on at least 3rd node set, 6 if great lighting, unless already topped, so moving on...

 

get can get lots of fast or sudden growth spurts that make get very tall, as that happens do you support them with anything and if so what? (I use very long pipe cleaners)

 

what made the decision to 'help' them along?

 

peace and be well,

 

tw

 


California 215 compliant grow

 

Currently Growing: TW8 (Blue Lime Pie x White Nightmare) cross made and KUSH OG and Pre-98 Bubba Kush.

 

Lighting:  start/veg 2 - 190w LUSH Herbal Vador 2x, 2 - 435w LUSH Lighting Dominator 2x

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On 1/7/2018 at 6:44 PM, Suzycrmcheese said:

Hey Manny,  Glad to see you back!!  After 9 yrs. I still do stupid stuff, like forgetting to tag them, or writing down when they've been flipped to 12/12.

Of course, they are finished when they're finished, but it seems I no longer have any concept of time....good to have a reference.

Jilly Bean was a good strain...been a long time since I had her in my garden.

 

Thanks Suzy!!! It’s great to be back. I finally figured out a simple method of online pic hosting that works for me, so I plan on regularly updating my thread this time. I’m not very impressed with these Jilly Bean seeds i got, they don’t have a very good germination rate, and I’m pretty sure that the grower I got them from wasn’t doing any pheno hunting or selective breeding, he just had a male in his garden and decided not to pull it so he could get a big seed harvest. 


 

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12 hours ago, EDDIEKIRK said:

What I do is as the plant grows to keep adding soil around it. That will help support it. 

Thanks EK!! I will try that out. The two Jilly Sprouts have outgrown their seed shells and are slowly showing growth. Stable, but not very fast- or as usual, I’m impatient, lol 


 

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Update: 

 

a few of the Northern Storm seeds I germinated have popped tails and were put in to the grow medium today. Special thanks to the Jedi (Karr McDebt) for donating these beans. So far they have shown a germination rate of 6/8. 

 

Genetics:

Jilly Bean

Northern Storm 


 

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16 hours ago, tumbleweed said:

just trying to help,

 

2" tall and still have helmet, hum, imo, you are smart to wonder why 

 

We met, remember :wink: and loved your visit

 

at 2" tall, all wonderful world, would hope for on at least 3rd node set, 6 if great lighting, unless already topped, so moving on...

 

get can get lots of fast or sudden growth spurts that make get very tall, as that happens do you support them with anything and if so what? (I use very long pipe cleaners)

 

what made the decision to 'help' them along?

 

peace and be well,

 

tw

 

TW!! Great to hear from you my friend! It has been a while, but I do remember meeting you, it was an honor and a pleasure. 

 

I think the helmet issues could possibly attributed to subpar genetics.its been a while since I grew anything, so I knew that there was going to be a bit of a learning curve in getting my personal grow up and running again. That’s why I chose to use up all of my subpar genetics first, while I get my environment dialed in and develop a schedule and routine that I can groove with. 

 

Now that I have gone through all of my bagseed and questionable genetics, I can move on to much better stuff that I have been saving for this occasion. 


 

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@tumbleweed the decision to “help” them along was sparked by my excitement and impatience. I was so happy to see any signs of life that i wanted them to just hurry up and grow. 

 

Looking back on it, i can’t help but think about the baby chicks that don’t survive if they are “helped” out of their shells too early. 


 

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Hey folks, another update. Things are improving, slowly but surely. I spent most of the day trying to do some arts and crafts. I have the lid for a cloner bucket. 

 
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I tried to fab my own manifold for an aero cloner, using spare parts that I had laying around from other planning and projects.
 
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First the height was wrong, then when I finally got it down to a size the I liked, nothing more than a trickle came out. I figured- too many holes, and not enough pressure. I think the water pump is only 48gph. So I made another setup with only about 4 holes drilled in it. It sprays well, but doesn’t really cover much area of
The bucket. 
 
I ordered another, stronger sub pump. When it arrives I am going to try and see if I can attach it to a single sprinkler head, like the one in this video 

 

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Howdy folks.

 
Here’s what I did today... really trying to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of my grow. I also wanted to make the best use of my grow space and I want to be able to run a continual cycle with seeds, clones, and teens all occupying the same space. 
 
I got this shelf setup from the loca hardware store. They sold all the parts separately, with different sizes to choose from. I opted for 3 tiers. Height 72in., Length 18in., Width 24in.
 
I was even still able to utilize the hook on the ceiling to hang a light over the top tier. 
 
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The bigger LED light that I added to the lowest rack is the CRX Sunny1000
 
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I will probably get 1 or 2 more of the 19w LED fixtures for the second tier, since they can plug in to each other and all run off the same outlet; and they really don’t draw much power. 
 
 
Here’s a shot of the top tier. The two Jilly Bean sprouts are all that are showing but there are a couple Northern Storm, And lavender sprouts that are also on their way. 
 
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Note to self. We are going to need a bigger fan for air circulation in the veg closet 

 

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2 minutes ago, EDDIEKIRK said:

I need those shelves. That always looks so cool, and it works. 

 

 

Amazon had a few lightening deals on those types of shelves. I got 2 sets....now just Have to clean and set up room


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1-16-2018

 
Today’s update
 
There are a couple of sprouts that are still alive, but most of the seeds I have sprouted do not make it past Cotelydon stage. 
 
The first hypothesis i proposed suggested that the cause of this was subpar genetics. 
 
I popped some seeds of some quality genetics to test out this theory. Dark Star Kush by T H Seeds, Catpiss, Lavender, Northern Storm, Forest Green, and a couple more strains. 
 
As of today, 1 Jilly Bean sprout and 2 Lavender sprouts remain. 
 
-my grow medium dries out pretty quickly so I suspect that the daily waterings May not be enough.
 
-I have been procrastinating the whole process of checking the pH of the water I am giving my sprouts. I usually fill up a bottle with water and let it sit out uncovered, overnight so that any residual chlorine can evaporate on my own. I checked with a couple friends of mine who grow in the same town and produce some quality indoor, and they said the The water quality in our city is top notch, some of the best in the country. We are located right on the river pretty much... 
-today I WILL go to the local grow shop and get my pH meter and TDS meter calibrated. 
 
I know that a lot of growers use humidity domes with their clones, I am going to try getting a couple humidity domes to put on my grow trays and see if that helps the seedlings any. I’m just kinda worried that adding the humidity domes means that the sprouts won’t get enough air circulation.
 
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On another note, I am slowly preparing myself for the transition to TLO style fully organic growing. 

 
I figure the first step in that is getting a compost started in our backyard. Nothing fancy, just the simplest kind of compost that I can think of, we have 3 or 4 piles started in a corner of the yard we have set aside for composting (it gets the most shade of the day and isn’t really ideal for growing...) 
3 of the piles are just leaves that have been raked up from the trees in our back yard. The 4th pile has some banana pees, egg shells & egg cartons, coffee grinds, and carrot ends.
 
We cook rice pretty often and have a small shed out back too, so I am going to try my hand at brewing Some bokashi and labs. 2f3870ab519774ccf5722da31b58c087.jpg

 

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23 minutes ago, MedicalManny said:

1-16-2018

 
Today’s update
 
There are a couple of sprouts that are still alive, but most of the seeds I have sprouted do not make it past Cotelydon stage. 
 
The first hypothesis i proposed suggested that the cause of this was subpar genetics. 
 
I popped some seeds of some quality genetics to test out this theory. Dark Star Kush by T H Seeds, Catpiss, Lavender, Northern Storm, Forest Green, and a couple more strains. 
 
As of today, 1 Jilly Bean sprout and 2 Lavender sprouts remain. 
 
-my grow medium dries out pretty quickly so I suspect that the daily waterings May not be enough.
 
 You could check the soil more often such as in the morning and evening. Perlite improves aeration and modify the soil, keeping it loose (prevents the soil from becoming compacted) and well-drained. Perlite functions as an aid to maintain adequate air (oxygen) in the soil, which in turn improves plant respiration. Coarse perlite (which I think you're using) has the highest air porosity, so it offers the most drainage capability and ensures the roots of your plants can breathe well. The fine-grade perlite is for starting seeds.  The drainage provided encourages rapid root production. Vermiculite is a popular companion to perlite as it does hold considerably more water. It can hold from between 30 and 50 per cent of its volume in water. It’ll absorb water and nutrients and keep them in the soil, which makes it perfect for seed starting blends or for plants that prefer lots of water. Starting seeds is a delicate process. You need to keep enough water in so she's grow, but at the same not too much that would allow pest to get a foothold. One of the most common reasons for seedling to die is dumping off. I was working on that thread when I started my break, but do have one that covers it. its one of the causes for dump off (link below) 
 
-I have been procrastinating the whole process of checking the pH of the water I am giving my sprouts. I usually fill up a bottle with water and let it sit out uncovered, overnight so that any residual chlorine can evaporate on my own. I checked with a couple friends of mine who grow in the same town and produce some quality indoor, and they said the The water quality in our city is top notch, some of the best in the country. We are located right on the river pretty much... 
-today I WILL go to the local grow shop and get my pH meter and TDS meter calibrated. 
 
I know that a lot of growers use humidity domes with their clones, I am going to try getting a couple humidity domes to put on my grow trays and see if that helps the seedlings any. I’m just kinda worried that adding the humidity domes means that the sprouts won’t get enough air circulation.
 
 
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51 minutes ago, MedicalManny said:

On another note, I am slowly preparing myself for the transition to TLO style fully organic growing. 

 
I figure the first step in that is getting a compost started in our backyard. Nothing fancy, just the simplest kind of compost that I can think of, we have 3 or 4 piles started in a corner of the yard we have set aside for composting (it gets the most shade of the day and isn’t really ideal for growing...) 
3 of the piles are just leaves that have been raked up from the trees in our back yard. The 4th pile has some banana pees, egg shells & egg cartons, coffee grinds, and carrot ends.
 
We cook rice pretty often and have a small shed out back too, so I am going to try my hand at brewing Some bokashi and labs. 2f3870ab519774ccf5722da31b58c087.jpg

 

 

If you can (check your city's codes) get some chickens. Some places will let you have hens and roosters (just have one or they'll kill each other), others just hens, or none. They are great for composting, eating bugs/spiders, and fertilizing. If you want to keep your lawn, I'd recommend you have them in a penned area. My current coop is made to move around. My hens ate my lawn in a few months. You can let them out in the yard, but keep an eye on them to make sure they don't do too much damage to the lawn. They will dig small holes while taking a dust bath. They will scratch the grass while hunting, but this is good for the lawn too (thatch- removed the dead grass). Plus when a hen eats something (fert) come out. Just keep in mind its very hot and may burn the lawn when fresh. 

 

If you have a dog, they can be trained to leave the hens alone. I've trained 2 adult dogs in a matter of a month or two. They were/are trained with the word, "leave it". That command can apply to anything you don't want your dog touching or eating.  My first dog was 10 years old that would kill the wild birds (normally jumping up into a flock fling above) when he was trained. After he was trained, he loved his girls (hens). Every morning he'd smell each one and give her a kiss, he'd watched for birds of prey and defend if needed (he almost killed one- red-tail hawk- defending the hens), and every evening he'd make sure all of his girls made it safely to the coop. The hens could lay on, scratch threw his thick fur, or ride him like a horse. My current dog is about 3 years old. If you want some tips, just ask.


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