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I've lived on properties with outdoor grows, but never been responsible for one myself, before now.  I have four girls inside now, and two are going outside as soon as its time...  This has been such a mild winter but late March/early April can still have some hard frosts.  This is especially true where I live, east of Portland in a Gorge influenced micro-climate.

 

I've built a 4' x 10' structure that will be a greenhouse/hoop-house combo, and dug two four foot diameter by two feet deep holes, and I have two 100 gallon smart pots and a really awesome soil combo, so I'm all ready to go.  I'm going to premix the soil and let the microbes get happy, while I wait for the right time to plant. 

 

I'm thinking mid-April?  My girls will be vegging under CFL's for 10 weeks by then!  I hadn't actually planned on putting them outside when I started them, I was going to do the full run indoors...  but now I really want to get them under the sun and let them do their thing.  

 

Well, sort of.  The law, as I understand it, is that an OMMP patient can not smoke in public view, and a grower can not grow plants within public view.  So even though I intend to finish the 6 foot fence before the plants are nearly that high, I can't have them growing over the fence.  To that end, the structure I built has an area for a SCRoG to be built into it, so that I can keep them wider and shorter.  

 

Anyway, I'm babbling.  When are y'all putting your girls outside?  How long (or to what size?) are you starting them in pots before you put them in the ground?  

 

Thanks! :)

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I was looking forward to including some plants in the outdoor garden this year, but I decided against it.  We have too many neighbors close-by that could potentially snoop, and I wouldn't want any trouble-makers hopping my fence after following the smell during heavy flowering.  Also, I need the space to plant the tons food crops that I plan on growing this summer :).

 

Sounds like you have a solid plan for your garden this year.  I would love to see some photos of your set up, if you feel like sharing

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I was looking forward to including some plants in the outdoor garden this year, but I decided against it.  We have too many neighbors close-by that could potentially snoop, and I wouldn't want any trouble-makers hopping my fence after following the smell during heavy flowering.  Also, I need the space to plant the tons food crops that I plan on growing this summer :).

 

Sounds like you have a solid plan for your garden this year.  I would love to see some photos of your set up, if you feel like sharing

 

I hear you about the smell and all, I live on a busy street with a bus stop adjacent to the property...  and...  I live about 100 yards from a police station.  It's all a bit surreal for me.  I'm hoping that by August the smell of ripening buds will be so ubiquitous that people will have trouble figuring out where its coming from!  But that could be a fantasy of mine.  I'm also thinking that if you're going to hop a fence and steal something, maybe you don't do it so close to a police station?  I really have no idea.  

 

We're going to give it a try and see what happens.  If it fails for any reason, we'll still have the greenhouse, and we're putting in fruit trees, berry bushes, and lots of veggies this year, so that'll come in handy as time goes on, no doubt.  

 

Right now I just have the framework of the structure, I'll post some pictures when its complete.  :)

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Yeah pretty much all you can do is try it and see what happens.  I think you're right though... there will most likely be a lot more outdoor gardens growing cannabis this year, and it will be legal to grow with or without OMMP by the fall, so even if the police do catch a whiff, they cant do anything about it.  As long as they are completely obscured, you should be fine.  I also live less than 1/4 mile from a police station, but times they are a changing and we are not breaking the law anymore.  I am still a newbie grower, but after more than two decades of being cautious with my weed, it's still second nature to want to avoid the police.  As far as security goes, I think thieves could hop the fence, rip my garden to shreds and be gone before I could even say 911. If they wanted to.  For me, its better to keep it discreet

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I have 8 count em 8 cameras located throughout the yard. Some are redundant , all have alarms and two way communication. When I yell in the microphone it sounds like the man above and sound comes out all the cameras simultaneity.

 

So that being said, I Think I'll start throwing on the back porch last week of April depending on the weather forecast.

 

I like your plans and your idea to keep em low and wide,

 

I did a small cold frame

 

Take a look see.  http://freemygreenpdx.com/topic/9208-hash-skunk-growing-outdoors-2014-video/page-5?do=findComment&comment=98364

 

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Since my first post I did some more research and all things considered, I'm going to finish the ones inside that I started inside, and get some fresh ones for the outside when the time is right.  It appears to be too risky/too much stress on the plants, to go from 10 weeks of indoors and 18 hours of light, to outdoors and 12 +/- hours of April light, then have it warm up and the days lengthen, then have the days shorten again...  They are in a kind of weak CFL closet, so the yield won't be much, but in the end that seems like the best option.

 

As far as theft goes, I'm going to have to chance it.  If I can get even a half pound out of each of two plants (one pound total), then I'll have almost enough medicine for my patient for a year - if I get 3/4's of a pound, we're golden.  So its definitely worth the risk of it being stolen to not have to rely on the small closet grows I've been playing with.      

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I have 8 count em 8 cameras located throughout the yard. Some are redundant , all have alarms and two way communication. When I yell in the microphone it sounds like the man above and sound comes out all the cameras simultaneity.

 

So that being said, I Think I'll start throwing on the back porch first week of April depending on the weather forecast.

 

I like your plans and your idea to keep em low and wide,

 

I did a small cold frame

 

Take a look see.  http://freemygreenpdx.com/topic/9208-hash-skunk-growing-outdoors-2014-video/page-5?do=findComment&comment=98364

 

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Beautiful grow!  Did you cut the bottoms off of those pots, or are those huge girls only have access to the soil in the pots?  Or are they shooting roots through the drain holes?

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Beautiful grow!  Did you cut the bottoms off of those pots, or are those huge girls only have access to the soil in the pots?  Or are they shooting roots through the drain holes?

 

 

One of the pots was made of cloth, that one I dug a hole and sat it in the hole, I did not cut the bottom out of the container, (Thinking the roots would just push through the bottom on their own as I'd seen others do.)

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But that is not what happened, At the end ot the year when I pulled the planter out, I found it sitting in about 4 inches of ground water, So the plant was always sitting in water (Im thinking) This year I'll do it different.

 

The second plant was just in that 10 gal plastic pot that sat above ground,  This year Im going with much larger smart pots (35 gal or more) and I will cut the bottoms off and work more on the drainage,

 

I don't want  to find they were sitting in water. so it was not the best grow yet. Im hoping this year will be much better.

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Beautiful grow!  Did you cut the bottoms off of those pots, or are those huge girls only have access to the soil in the pots?  Or are they shooting roots through the drain holes?

 

 

One of the pots was made of cloth, that one I dug a hole and sat it in the hole, I did not cut the bottom out of the container, (Thinking the roots would just push through the bottom on their own as I'd seen others do.)

 

But that is not what happened, At the end ot the year when I pulled the planter out, I found it sitting in about 4 inches of ground water, So the plant was always sitting in water (Im thinking) This year I'll do it different.

 

The second plant was just in that 10 gal plastic pot that sat above ground,  This year Im going with much larger smart pots (35 gal or more) and I will cut the bottoms off and work more on the drainage,

 

I don't want  to find they were sitting in water. so it was not the best grow yet. Im hoping this year will be much better.

 

 

That's all very interesting and helpful.  I have two 100 gallon "smart pots" (cloth pots, which are 3 feet wide and 19" tall), and I dug 4 foot wide by 2 foot deep holes.  I then back-filled the holes halfway with augmented soil mixed with native soil, because I was told where I bought them (as you had assumed) that the roots will grow through the material.  The pots will be filled with highly augmented soil.  

 

I am sinking them partway into the ground for two reasons -- one is to keep the roots cool, the other is because of the height issues, I don't want to start the plant 16 inches off of the ground, lower is better for me.  I realize I lose some of the "breathability" of cloth pots, and I will lose the very fast draining aspect, but I just don't have the height to work with.

 

My soil down below the pots is pretty sandy/loamy, so I believe it will drain sufficiently.  Initially I had planned on just dropping them straight into the ground without any pot, so I suppose this will be a good compromise.  It's my first outdoor grow, and my first one at this house in this area...  lots of firsts.      

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My soil is all clay , when I pulled my plant last year I found it was sitting  in a couple inches of water. They'll need to be above ground this year, or I will need to do some extra digging.  I am not looking forward to digging. :(

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my plants go out depending on the weather forecast from mid April to may

 

My soil is all clay , when I pulled my plant last year I found it was sitting  in a couple inches of water. They'll need to be above ground this year, or I will need to do some extra digging.  I am not looking forward to digging. :(

that's why I had those  4-7 feet wide by 4 feet deep holes dug,...... http://freemygreenpdx.com/topic/9628-summer-grow-2014/ I'll have 3 in the ground and 2 in 45 gal smartpots


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that's why I had those  4-7 feet wide by 4 feet deep holes dug,...... http://freemygreenpdx.com/topic/9628-summer-grow-2014/ I'll have 3 in the ground and 2 in 45 gal smartpots

 

Ideally, that is what I need, I think we live on an old rock quarry. I find nothing but rocks and clay.

 

I'm also only going with 30 gallon smarties. Once I put them down I won't be able to move them.

 

Cheri is saying we should not put ours in till June, Is that to late? She does not want them as big as last year.

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I've got some fresh clones and I'm hardening them in front of a window but keeping a couple of CFLs on them to keep them at 18/6.  I haven't met much community on the ground, but online the feedback I've been getting is that the days are too short in April, and the plants (if they have been vegged indoors and are mature enough) may start to flower.  Then late May/early June, they will go back to veg, and then in August start to flower again, and all of this can kind of mess them up.  The suggestion was, if a person wants to put them out in April and has a greenhouse, they can hang a light and keep it on from 8-10pm until June 1st, to make sure to keep them in veg.  I have enough strange glowing lights coming from my house, I don't think I'll put a light out in the back yard.

 

All of that is apparently less relevant if you start from seeds and not clones.  As I understand it, if you start from seeds then you can put them out earlier -- but I have no actual experience with this, its just what I'm being told.  

 

So...  all that said...  I'm going to play it by ear and see how I feel.  I have a small hoop house/cold frame to start a pair under, hopefully that will give them some early protection.  And then two more for the greenhouse.  It's more the lack of light than the cold I'm worried about at this point.  

 

Do y'all usually start from seeds or clones?

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I use clones of the same plant now 8 years

 

what area are you? The valley? here in PDX?

 

Im ne PDX

 

Plants from last year under 18/6  First day outside at 45 days old. April 29th

 

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7 days later same plant out side. may 5th

 

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May 11th same plant now moved to permanent location

 

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No sign of reverting. 

 

Hope this helps.

 

See the complete thread here. :)

http://freemygreenpdx.com/topic/9208-hash-skunk-growing-outdoors-2014-video/

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Thanks EddieKirk, that does help.  I live in the far NE corner of Multnomah County, so there are some micro-climate concerns, but that's why I have the cold frame and the greenhouse.  The ones that are starting under the cold frame will be under a big hoop house come September.

 

Really, I think the only thing I'm lacking is patience, I'm just a little too excited about getting them into the ground.  But I'll exert some self-control and wait until the time is right.  

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i love growing outside in town. but my blessing is my curse. I have great cover 50 year mature growth around the perimeter but my cedar is too tall and steals direct sunlight from 9 am to  noon everyday. and my neighbors trees take practically everything not on my roof in mid october. in a big lot I have 6 sq ft of actual grow space. lol. But I has great results when potted with elevated platforms. i built an elevated green house even. just looks tall to anyone that can see it. i feel like busting out but.. I think in these first few legal years we need still be careful. cooning is going to be a bigger factor although there is more meat out there. and we are still protected legally, might even look at insurance this year lol... what am i saying? location location location....  

 

timing is extremely important too and if you are worried and really want or like me need to use the daylight put a light on your plants that stay on 2 or 3 hours after sunlight. so they don't flower early and you end up in a reveg hell that never amounts to anything no matter how much work you put into it...you may need that same set up in the fall to put some meat on in a cloudy september. and its a lot easier then getting out there and covering your sativas with bags every night trying to get them to flower early. 

seeds are different though right you can put them out early and not worry about flowering. i started mine two weeks ago putting them out now.

strain is deal too big grow something you like as well as something that will finish. or else end up with a lot of whatever.

 

but hey experiment too, if you can... my first outdoor immature g-13 didn't suck either. i think i got a half off it...

 

 

To be honest finding your strain at the 45 parallel actually is a bitch... so start planing really early one year ike january.and then watch how and when everything is needed.put your scene together, and you wont be so daunted  it works up here...   

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the coolest thing about growing outside is looking your address up on google a couple of years after a really good year! a couple of nice 3 meter round dark circles in your backyard around august makes you feel righteous! and as obvious as as a republican at a dead show, btw anyone get extra tickets at santa clara... and i need them, at cost or i cant buy them. goddamn rules! 

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So, a couple weeks ago I put one clone outside, Today I seen that its flowering. I pinched off the top and brought it back in. :)

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I put one out about two weeks ago, today I seen that she was flowering, I pinched off the top and brought her back in. :D

 

I got 4 clones on March 31st.  Moved them to larger pots 5 days later.  On April 26th I put 2 of them in the ground.  They are in a small hoop-house that's about 32" tall, but at this time of year it does not get direct sunlight until noon, so I was concerned about how they would react.  So far I've been lucky, they seem to be doing fine.  I will be sure to inspect them closely for signs of flowering.

 

I've got two more that I got at the same time that are still vegging inside.  I'll probably put them out early next week.  

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When did I start my outside grow?

 

To be honest it was started the day this thread was started, here is a pic of one on the back porch I have in a big containerI took this afternoon.

 

It's a Aurora India x THC Bomb cross

 

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On 4/12/2015 at 1:42 AM, EDDIEKIRK said:

I use clones of the same plant now 8 years

 

what area are you? The valley? here in PDX?

 

Im ne PDX

 

Plants from last year under 18/6  First day outside at 45 days old. April 29th

 

74d7cabc5de4e182e01e6382e748e5e8.png

 

 

7 days later same plant out side. may 5th

 

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May 11th same plant now moved to permanent location

 

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No sign of reverting. 

 

Hope this helps.

 

See the complete thread here. :)

http://freemygreenpdx.com/topic/9208-hash-skunk-growing-outdoors-2014-video/

 

That's a cutie, love to see it this fall.


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