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I got a call from the pound with bad and good news. Their vet showed the vet they were planning to bring in to do the surgery and he's unconformable to do it. He said the specialist should do the surgery. The cheaper option of surgery is now off of the table. I ask the pound we were going to split the cost of the 906, would she she be willing to put the 453 towards the specialist. She said she'd put $500 towards it and send me an e-mail so its documented. I'll be call Free Animal doctor to let them know shortly

I talked to the pound's vet today. They'd bring in another vet to do the surgery and put in a screw, so I'm considering this option. I did sent e-mail to the pound a few questions and still waiting for response. For my half of the $906.00, would there be a payment plan or paid at once? I've been talking to a charity called Free Animal Doctor to help me with the funds for Chloe. They want it in writing. Another question is recovery/after care for Chloe. Would the pound be helping with those cost too? Stitches being removed, x-ray 8-weeks after to make sure Chloe has healed right. I'll probably call tomorrow. I got Chloe's DNA test results today from Embark 38.1% American Pit Bull 13.7% American Bulldog 9.9% Bulldog 8.8% Akita 8.3% American Staffordshire Terrier 4.8% Australian Cattle dog 4.0% German Shepherd 12.4% super mutt which is Chow Chow, Doberman Pinscher, and English Setter Embark also tested for 172 genetic diseases that we have cracked the codes for. Chloe has only 1 thing to keep our eyes on Alanine Aminotranferase Activity: Low Normal Low Normal Test result Chloe has two copies of a mutation associated with reduced ALT activity. Please inform your veterinarian that Chloe has this genotype, as ALT is often used as an indicator of liver health and Chloe is likely to have a lower than average resting ALT activity. As such, an increase in Chloe’s ALT activity could be evidence of liver damage, even if it is within normal limits by standard ALT reference ranges. Alanine Aminotransferase Activity (GPT) Condition GPT Gene name AA Genotype codominant Inheritance type Description This result helps your vet understand what your dog's baseline ALT activity is. The enzyme alanine aminotransferase, or ALT, is commonly used to evaluate liver health. Dogs with one or more copies of the "A" allele are likely to have a lower baseline ALT activity ("low normal") than dogs with zero copies of the "A" allele ("normal"). This means that you and your vet might adjust what you consider your dog's baseline ALT levels to be, and consider deviations from this as "abnormal." Please note that this mutation should never increase your dog's ALT activity. If your dog has high ALT activity, please consult your veterinarian. Embarks results were a lot different from the wisdom DNA test 37.5% American Staffordshire Terrier 12.5% American Bulldog 12.5% Australian Cattle dog 12.5% Bullmastiff 25% breed group: guard, asian

thank you. I'm on the mend, although I literally had a shitty day yesterday. Better today! Them telling you to replace Chloe is like saying, there's something wrong with your son, here take this one as a replacement...grrr. They know they are in the wrong and just trying to cover their asses. Got any lawyers in the family? I have an appt. tomorrow with a local animal shelter which is no kill. They have a fostering program where I would take kittens and older dogs and cats waiting for adoption. They supply and pay for everything. Finances are one reason I haven't replaced my Border Collie. Of course, my main worry is becoming too attached, but I'm looking for a purpose in life...a way to pay it forward...we'll see. Hope the vet calls you back...I think they are afraid of your tenacity. Good Luck!!

I've been calling and waiting all day to the pound's vet. 1st couple, the doctor was in surgery, then talking to a patient. their office closed about 10 minutes ago and I didn't get a call from their doctor like they kept saying

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I asked the pound through e-mail what their vet would charge for this surgery and would you being willing to pay 1/2 of that? below is the pound's response. Their vet would like me make an appointment with her to talk directly about surgical options for Chloe. She would like you to either bring the x-ray from my vet (I called this morning and my vet already sent them this morning) or she is willing to take another x-ray of Chloe’s elbow, since she doesn’t have the x-ray from my vet. She can then provide the estimate to you directly. She and I have agreed that any treatment costs will be billed to the Animal Shelter at our rate and then you can reimburse the Shelter half the cost. Does that sound OK? I made an appointment for tomorrow and asked if this would be free. Personally, I think it should be free since this vet didn't fully check Chloe. I'm hoping this vet learned to check any limp very closely now since the person who adopted the pet in question may be a true animal lover and will do everything possible to save their pet's life as well as the best outcome for pain free and happy life. I was told, I had to call the pound to see. I sent an e-mail asking the pound if this appointment would be free. I got a response quickly saying, " You wouldn’t have to pay for it. Any cost will be charged to the Shelter. " I don't think the pound understood my question fully. Since their vet would remove the bone vs putting a screw, I don't want them to do the surgery. The specialist said large breeds like Chloe do better with the screw option whereas small breeds do better with the bone being removed. Later today, I need to call the free animal doctor, so they can get the info they need to put up her fundraiser on their site. Once they do, I will post the link. All the money this site makes goes directly to the vet that does the treatment

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What a marvelous home, I would live there, But It's not your Son's fault that tape measure split like that. That happens with those old ones from temp. changes. Not misuse. I love the skylight, or is that a 'coopla'? I also like that you insulated it and found a way to naturally heat the house. How many years do the hens need to lay in order to 'recoup' the costs of the building?

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Chloe's 1st Christmas Chloe's bed for her crate came. She trying it out after watching Midnight & Moon play on it for almost a hour The day after Chloe's crate came. It's 48" long

For Midnight & Moon's 1st Christmas they got a lot of new toys, and Nut Nibbler enjoyed them too Midnight has started to play fetch, but when he returns he claws and wraps around my foot and leg A toy fish Just a tired Nut Nibbler The kittens spotted the birds at the feeder and did some window hunting A few days later and it's dinner time After a good meal and some play time, it cuddle/nap time

I'll get some pictures up, 3-White Nightmare from seed, Pineapple Upside Down Cake and Napali pink from clones. https://www.hytiva.com/strains/white-nightmare https://darkheartnursery.com/strains/pineapple-upside-down-cake/ https://darkheartnursery.com/strains/napali-pink/ peace

A few days ago, Copper learned first hand what it means to answer to me as his alpha. Before I go in to this, I'll explain why I do what I do. I grew up on a small farm where I saw and learned many types of animal behavior. This is when I had my 1st dog, Tinker aka stinky (she had bad gas and kept going after skunks). Her main job was to kill the huge barn rats. Barn rats are about the size of a small 8lb cat. She had to be on a chain or leash at all times when outdoors unless she was going after a rat because she thought the neighbor's small dog that barked all the times was a over grown rat. She hated yappy dogs. That neighbor's 5 dogs (1 pug and 4 golden retrievers) have come on our property many times attacking our livestock and once my dog while on a chain. My 1st dog may of been small (Boston Terrier mix) and at a disadvantage being on a chain defending herself against 5 dogs, but she was one tough bitch. The only damage she had was a hole on top of her nose that made a whistling sound until it healed. For the 5 dogs that attacked her, the pug and 1 golden retriever was killed on our property, another was so badly injured it had to be put down (I remember them threatening to sue my parents never-mind their dogs were on our property), and the remain two had many wounds. A few months later, these two dogs came on our property again during the night and attacked our goats during mating season. The following morning, I had to pull one of these dogs off of my billy goat's horns. The billy goat rammed the dog and caught it by the throat. I boxed it and took it to its owner who once again threatened to sue. I told them good luck, your dogs were attacking our livestock. If you take this to court, you'll lose your remaining dog and it will lose its life. There last dog after that stayed on its property. My 2nd dog I think was 1/4 wolf (his mother had curved canines- a wolf trait), so I studied how the wolf pack functioned to apply to training for him. He was a very loyal and the best guardian I had for my hens. It took under a month to train him with my hens. It helped that he was a mature dog during training. Puppies take longer to train because they want to play. I could stare him down easily. Just one look or motion from me and that dog knew what I want him to do. The alpha can be a bit rough at times, but there are good reasons to do so. One of the main things is to force the dog to submit (lay on back, show belly) either willing or by force and make them stay in that pose til they true submit. Copper had been doing so well with the kittens, not even a growl up to this point even with Midnight playing with his tail. Copper was in his bed chewing a treat and Midnight was a few feet away sniffing the carpet. I've seen them do this many times without a problem, but this time Copper growled. This was the first time I've heard him growl in this manner. I warned him verbally. A few minutes later, he growled and lunged at Midnight. My dog and pup have two beds each, one in their crate and the other in the living room. Copper's bed is by me luckily. I immediately blocked Midnight with my body as I'm on all fours, I gave a fierce growl as I lunged Copper grabbing him by the throat and flipping him to his back (he went from zeroed in on Midnight to wtf just happened look in seconds) where I forced him to stay until he fully submitted. Telling him no. If he refused to do so, I will bite and I don't think twice about not drawing blood. It's something I picked up from my 2nd dog. This may sound cruel, but this is what the alpha in either dog or wolf pack will do. Then I took him to his crate and locked him up. While I was locking him up, Chloe stole his treat and ate it quickly. Once Copper was allowed out, he had to wear a muzzle until I was sure he would not make that mistake again. Midnight is ok, not a scratch. He was just fluffy for a while. The only reason Copper is still breathing is because Midnight wasn't injured. The only time I'm somewhat forgiving is when the pup or dog is being trained. Once trained and they attack, if the animal they attacked is injured in the slightest or worse, the dog is put down asap. I know many people consider a dog a pet or a member of the family. True they are, but they are also I tool and have a job to do as anyone that either lived or still live on a farm or ranch will tell you. If that trust is broken, the dog loses its purpose. Protecting me, all my animals, and veggie garden is the main purpose for both Copper and Chloe. Chloe will have an added job of killing the rats since Copper (I've never seen this in a dog before let alone a terrier breed) is afraid of rats either dead or alive. Last summer, I lose all of my corn to rats in under a week while Copper was yelping and running with tucked tail away from them. The rats went after the tomatoes and sun flowers too. So why did this spineless dog afraid of a rat try to attack a kitten he knew was above him in the pack, I don't have a clue but hope he learned I will not tolerate what he did. That is strike one. Midnight still plays with Copper's tail and tries to cuddle or nap with him. Copper looks at me as Midnight plays. He knows he messed up bad. Midnight wants to be buds with both Copper and Chloe. His sister, Moon, isn't so trusting of dogs. Nibbler will hiss, growl, fluff, and scratch if the dog/pup gets too close. Midnight seems to like to play fetch mixed either clawing my leg or scratching it like a scratching post when he returns the toy to be tossed again.

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RIP! My brother and I are also very sensitive about my pet cat! Blessing and love!

I took my son with me to the pound's vet. She agreed with me that Chloe needs the screw, and not removing the bone. She was saying cause of age whereas I was saying the specialist said large breeds do better with the screw option. She said this type of surgery they'd referee to the specialist, and they can't do it. I got a call from the pound and she said the exact opposite leading to major confusion. She said their vet would bring in another vet to do the surgery and would cost 1800 total, 900 to me. This was never mentioned while at the vet. I think she was trying to trick me to get them off of the hook. The pound said, she may be confused and call the vet again. So after that call, I called the vet to give my email, so they could send the estimates directly to me, and told the receptionist to tell the doctor I spoke to to know what the pound said.

Yesterday, I got a call from the pound's vet clinic. I'm kinda amazed the pound told them of the deal of paying 50/50 since they didn't give the vet clinic the diagnoses, a copy of the medical report, and they were unsure who took the x-rays or where to get it. I told them. I was away from from home, so didn't have my stuff to tell them what the report said over the phone. The vet that would be looking at this information isn't in the office until next Weds cause of the holidays. I also let them know, I wanted to know if they could do the surgery and how much would that cost.

I took Chloe to 1st vet this morning. He wants to hear what the specialists says. He did mention if multiple vets recommend Chloe going to the specialist, the pound may be forced to. Some good news is her right front leg moves good. While I was gone her ramp came. I already have worked with her going on it at first laying flat in the house to going in/out of the back of my SUV. She was afraid of it at first, but didn't take long for her to be on it. I called the pound and talked to the manager who was out sick most of last week. I asked if she had heard from their vet about Chloe's elbow. She had not heard from them. She forgot and thanked me for reminding her. She told me she's call them and let me know. I let her know that I'll be busy around 1:30 today for a consultation so I know what are our options. meanwhile Chloe and kittens are out in the house. Chloe has her leash on just in case, but so far is doing well with sniffing kittens around her hind corners. Midnight just woke Chloe by tickling her chest. Chloe jump spooking Midnight who jumped behind me. I Chloe leave it, she did so I said good girl

The pound called to let me know that she is waiting to hear from there vet. Their vet should get a copy of Chloe's x-ray and look at it today. I asked if they can't and I find a vet that can, would you still be willing to pay 1/2. She said they don't have a contract with them, but if the price is responsible they would.

The pound doesn't open until 11 am, so I went to pet smart to delay Chloe's puppy school start date ( I plan on going down there to talk to the trainer face to face this afternoon)and also asked if they knew of any charities that could help. I asked this question at a few places and to my disappointment, there is only one in this valley. I called left a message and sent them an e-mail also. One of the places I went to told me of a veterinarian in Grants Pas that may be able to do the surgery. I called them and they are going to get a copy of the x ray then get back to me.I'm looking at all possible options. I just got back from the pound. I talked to the manager. We went over Chloe's medical record and she admitted their vet didn't take x-ray of Chloe'd limping right front because she thought the hip was the problem. I explained to her that I adopted Chloe about a month ago and had to wait until yesterday to get her in the vet. That was the first opening they had. I told her front right leg was getting worse with the cold weather and the vet had an x-ray done. Chloe was diagnosed with UAP fracture in her elbow. A UAP is Ununited Anconeal Process, a type of elbow dyspepsia from what I've read. My vet refereed me to a specialty center for surgery. I called them and got a estimate. The consultation alone is $145 and the surgery will cost somewhere between $3200-3600. I her that I would like to keep Chloe but I can't afford the specialist's cost. I've been try to find charities to help or find another veterinarian that can do it for a lower price. The manager said they won't pay for the specialist, but what she will do is call their veterinarian to see if she can do it and we split the cost 50/50. I showed the bill from my vet so she could get the info she needed like a e mailed x ray of Chloe's leg. She told me she'd let me know if their vet can can do it. I'm hoping this will happen. The charity, No Pet Left Behind, called back. She was amazed at all I had already done trying to find a why for Chloe to get her surgery. She said I'm like a fresh breath of air, I said I thought this was common sense. She said most people that call her don't do anything they just want someone to pay their bill even if they can afford it, but she could tell I was one those responsible pet owner determined to find a way to make this work. She was amazed I drove down to the pound to talk to the manager face to face. They can help with the consultation cost. We need to wait to see if the pound's vet can do the surgery then we can talk if they can help. I told her I'd keep her updated. She suggested if the pound's vet can't do the surgery if they were willing to pay half of the cost if their vet could of done it. I told her I would ask if we cross that road. She told me of a few resources I could also try.